Although I'm the n00bster here, I thought that it would be beneficial to start this as a new topic instead of posting in a massive 7-page long one.

Anyway, onto the subject, what exactly is the status of the website? I know that KrystalShasha was working on it at one point but now seems to not be doing so unless (s)he is not sharing the work with us. I have gone to their blog and have seen that the last update was in Mid April of this year, yet her last activity here seemed to be back in January so does anyone have any idea if she is burned out on the Revolution or what?

At any rate, I have taken the liberty to review the website code that Krystal wrote, and it looks pretty good to me, it only took me a few minutes to understand what was going on, and I spent the better part of a few hours working on Internet Exploder 6 compatibility which isn't *perfect*, but it is usable. If you want, you may see my WIP here

On to the future, what do you guys want to do now? (I'm making a major assumption that I am the most experienced web developer here, so please correct me if I'm wrong ;).) I personally would not mind making the current template into a dynamic site, but I need to fully understand what we want. So far I have accumulated the following:

1. Import news from forum
2. Support translations

And I gathered a bit more, but it was stuff that seemed "elementary" (Watson :P) to me, so I just didn't list it up there.

Another thing that I have noticed is that several of the people who started up work on a website have mysteriously vanished from the forums. I would like to go ahead and say that I'm here, and I have no plans of going anywhere, my instant messenger addresses and my email address are in my profile. Use them to your advantage ;)

I look forward your responses ^_^

Let me first say that quite honestly, you came right on time here, our hopes of a website were fading, you made perfect timing mate ;)

About KrystalSasha, she was suffering from depression and so her work was delayed. She came back and told us that she was doing a bit better but was still wavering, and that's I believe the last we saw of her here.

Hey there,Hoikas!It's good to see another pair of hands ready to help us in revolutionizing and another active member! :handjeklap:

I looked at KrystalSasha's Deviant Art account and he seems to be active.If ya wanna,I could try to send him a note with a link this topic and ask him about the website.

Yeah,as far as I know,Sasha is a guy.

Please do, I'd love to hear his input :)

You saved me a lot of work I figured I’d be the one to have to make a website (And that could be a painful process, lol).

Is the site going to be in CSS or XHTML?

I think that you misunderstand how CSS and xHTML work together. CSS was introduced to help remove display information from content (content being sent via xHTML and style being sent over CSS). Don't worry, I was confused about what CSS (and how to use it) at one point too ;)

Basically, I am taking the template that KrystalShasha made and am fixing a few browser errors and will be writing a PHP/MySQL backend around it. You probably won't see any actual work done until Tuesday because I have a paper to write for English 10....

Yeah, now that you mention it I do recall that it works with xHTML not alone.

I currently don’t have any first hand knowledge I’ve just watched some (like 25, with like another 80 to go, lol) videos from Lynda.com about working with Dream Weaver 8 (which I have), I’m impressed how much I’ve retained since I knew absolutely nothing about websites.

Cool. Now, I'd recommend just trying random things since I find that I learn better by doing than reading about something... Once you get the hang of Dream Weaver, you should try your hand at editing the xHTML and CSS manually. Before long, it'll be a piece of cake for you to whip up just about anything :)

Just don't let browser compatibility issues discourage you :)

I'm willing to help out with coding. I don't have much experience building websites, but I've got a lot of programming experience, so if I had something to work from, I could likely produce stuff fairly quickly (i.e. debugging/expanding/refining code). You might just have to put up with a few ramblings from a dyed-in-the-wool C programmer ;)

Hmmm well... About 2 years ago I would have cowered away from that, but I've had to put up with C loving, disassembling geeks lately (also some die-hard M$ fans :wacko: ), so I'm pretty patient with ramblings :P

If I need any help, then I'll be sure to let you know :)

Well, I decided to procrastinate on my paper :P

I have the basic PHP stuff done. You can check it out here.

I have completed the ability to translate pages (see the news posting), but I have not added the ability to translate the top menu items, and I haven't quite figured out if the logo need to be translated or not. If so, some of the more graphically-talented users will have an opportunity to contribute :). The Carlson and Peeters manual thingy now randomly selects a quote from a MySQL database (in the correct language of course). Currently, there is only one C&P quote in the database.

I'm not quite sure what needs to go in the "updates" section, but that will require a bit of coding, but I'll cross that bridge a little later. I haven't quite finished deciding how the daily fun stuff will work... Any suggestions on either of those are welcome :)

Shortly in the future, the writers will be able to submit their content and see it on the site, and then, the translators will need to get to work. (If you really want to do something, you can translate something along the lines of "This page cannot be found." for me)

Oh, a note for the Spanish translator (I can't find the translator topic right this second): Although I know Spanish, I would prefer that you keep your job as a translator :P

Well the most translators we have are listed in this post: http://z6.invisionfree.com/BGE2_Revolution...dpost&p=2754660 (note that the Dutch translators are not listed - we actually have too many of them ;))

As for the site - it's needs some good graphic, but we don't have the artist only for the pleasure of having them :P

Daily fan stuff... I've got an idea. Look here and look at the part of the page, that is called "Obrazek z gry..." ("Picture from the game..."), almost at the end of the page. There is a screenshot of the game, and the sign "zobacz z jakiej" ("look from which...").

So we could show a little piece of the fanart or a good quote from the fanfic (of course, it would appear randomly) and under it could be a link to the whole fanart/fanfic (i.e. "See the whole masterpiece ;)). What do you guys think?

Gimme the graphics!You're looking at soon-to-be art student. :superior:

Fomorian,this idea is nice.It might bring more interesting people,we might give it a shot,if that kind of script isn't too hard to write. :)

Great idea Fomorian! :D I'm working on a fanfic so it would be cool to have it posted ^_^ I'm gettin giddy, our dreams of a website might be realized!

I like the idea Formorian :) It wouldn't be too difficult to write, we'll just have to write in some more cool MySQL stuff, but what I'm concerned about it the size of the block. I had to do some major hacking to get Internet Explorer 6 to display the site correctly, so the blocks are a bit bigger in that browser, but the block is as big as the Jade cap in real browsers like Firefox.... Well, what I'm getting at is that we don't want to stretch the block with overly large images or quotes. I really don't think that scaling the image down would be very constructive though since it would be about the size of a pea in the block, so we might just end up using links.

Oh wait! I just had an idea :P What if we were to display a link in the Fun Stuff, then when the user rolls over it, a little box pops up beside the cursor with a preview? That might be interesting...

Oh, and for anyone who is graphically savvy (Hoikas looks at Alexa). I really do love the filmstrip, but at the moment, it is very static and I can't do the "roll over" type thing that Secundo wanted to do for navigation. I really liked that idea, so, do you think that you could get individual, colored images for the filmstrip and send them to me? I think that coding this will be a good excerise for my javascript skills (which are left-overs from the prehistoric era :P)

Oh, about the Dutch translators... We'll cross that bridge when we get there. honestly think that a collaboration among them would work well.

BG&E Voyager, I love fanfictions myself (I kinda spent all of last summer reading Harry/Ginny HP ones <_<), so I really look forward to reading it :)

Sure,Hoikas...As soon,as I'll get my comp back (beginning of June,I hope).No problem! :)

Cool, it's not too urgent :)

Hm,I had a bright idea about the random previews of fanfic.We could do something like Deviantart literature previews:

http://browse.deviantart.com/literature/?order=5

When you move your mouse over the preview,the text scrolls itself.That might be a good thing and works for all browsers.

That'd make the site more cool :arr: Maybe we could have a random screenshot of the game daily?

I've spent an unusual amount of time thinking about that scrolling box from deviant art. I personally am not too fond of it, but if everyone else loves it, then it's in :P... Just need to figure out how to integrate it though.

As for random screen shots: Sounds like a good idea, but where would they go?

What’s this scrolling box?

That ;)

I don’t like the scrolling boxes, I like to scroll at my own pace.

Part of the reason why I don't like them ;). The other is that they're too small and restrictive. I prefer using the whole page for a fan fiction.

Okay, just as an update on what's going on with me and stuff. I'm still suffering from my depression, and actually just pulled out of a week long depression bout earlier today, or maybe nearing the end of last night. Anyways, I have identified the two major issues in my life that is causing all this turmoil for me, and I am actively seeking solutions to them right now. I probably won't have anything solid for several months though, while I work through the issues with a therapist, so I'm probably out for now.

I am still totally supportive of the Revolution™ and all that pertains to it, but I'm not necessarily capable of providing much, if any assistance at the moment, other than maybe advertising you guys through my blog, and even deviantART. I am glad that someone else who seems quite capable has come along. From the sounds of his knowledge, he might even know more than I do, which can only be a good thing ^_^

Ooo, nice. I just took a look at the PHP version you put up Hoikas. Thanks for liking my work! That makes me feel pretty good. It seems like you got a pretty good handle on how my template in the works was set up. Hopefully it wasn't too hard to figure out how everything worked. I have a tendency to not comment much in any coding I do, which is a bad habit, I know, but still...

Anyways, I truly hope that everything works out fine for you guys. You seem to have a really good person to help you out with things in Hoikas. Ah yes, and to clear up a few things. For one, I am a guy. I personally don't care what you call me, male or female, but figured I'd just clear up any confusion there :lol:

Oh yeah, I haven't been checking up on DA that often, so if you want to get into contact with me the best way would be through Xfire. You can find my profile at http://www.xfire.com/profile/KrystalSasha/ if you are interested in contacting me that way. I really don't use any other IM programs that often, but I do run Xfire right at startup. If I don't answer, odds are I am AFK, since I leave my computer on all day whether I am at it or not. Anyways, good luck on this ever changing and continually growing project. I wish you all the best, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions or whatever ^_^

Maybe not the whole page, like if I’m using a wide screen monitor.


I find it tedious to reed long lines and then having to move my eyes all the way back , it also makes it easy to loose your line if you’re in the middle.

Good to hear from you, KrystalSasha. Sounds like things are on the right track, and I hope it stays that way.

So do we all, so do we all...

Nice to hear from you KrystalSasha!

You might be interested to know that I never comment my code, so it didn't faze me that there were no comments :), the only thing that I had trouble with was the odd margin stuff in the CSS, which I changed to relative positioning (which actually fixes a few browser issues)

Look forward to seeing you around Krystal :), oh, I'm going to add you to my XFire, but I rarely use that...

Hey Krystal, good seeing you again mate! :D Hope things get a 10000 rum barrels better! :arr:

Alright, let's get this show on the road again.

I have received word that there is someone asking for all the writer's content so the website can start moving again. I am willing to send this content, if someone would please give me a quick update on the current status of website activity and more importnatly, who needs the writer's content?

Currently, I am writing PHP code and making the site a little more dynamic than the old template that KrystalSasha made. I posted where my live development testbed is (http://revolution.hoikas.com), which might not always be in working order ;).

I will be needing the writer's content so that I can put it on the site and work out any final problems that might surface...

Okay, at least now I know who to send it to. Glad to see someone working on the website again. I'll send you the files by e-mail a.s.a.p. Probably tomorrow evening, I need to go to bed early for work tomorrow. Well, it's already too late to go early, but still...

Okay guys, I have an opportunity for you to help me :)

GameTap went and deleted Beyond Good & Evil for me -- thus all of my saved games were erased.

Now I'm lazy and don't really feel like redownloading it because I'm going to be getting it on CD soon, but until then, I can't get the screen shots that I need.

So... What do I need? I need a close up (100 x 85 pixels preferably. It can vary slightly though) of the following characters:

Double H
Hahn
Mei
Ming-Tzu
Mo
Nino
Peepers
Any one of the Lighthouse children
DomZ Preist
General Kheck
Governor of Hillys
One of the Mammago Brothers
Nouri

If you can help me out, I'd appreciate it :)

Damn, I would help you with all of it, Hoikas, but I have problems with BGE on my laptop... However I can get you one of the Mammagos, one of the children, Nouri and Peepers. I'll post them here as soon as I get it.

EDIT: On second thought, look here: http://z6.invisionfree.com/BGE2_Revolution...st=0, you'll find most - if not all - screenshots you need. Or you can ask Ralexand or Reaper, they have TONS of screenshots.

Yeah, I got most of them from there... Odd that I wasn't able to find that thread, then suddenly, it was there :huh:

Edit: Oh yeah, I could use the Nouri and Peepers one... I still don't have my BG&E CD yet... Maybe tomorrow (when I'll be out of town for half of the day).

Well, I am going to commit the unforgivable sin of double posting *gasp*... But put away your guns! I have a very good reason for it :D

I've been toiling away at the website this past week, and I think that we're finally ready to start putting some content on there. :) So, why don't you take a peak at a few of my proof of concept pages? Don't you love the filmstrip... Jagori did an excellent job on the border around it :)

I did receive the writings that Denden had for the site, but I found that some of it was sort of disjointed and didn't flow very well. There already wasn't much to begin with, but after I filtered out a few things, there wasn't that much left, which pretty much destroyed my initial plan of using what content I received from Denden and just writing a little on the side myself. I feel that in order to make this site the best that it can be, we need a better way of working together to write the website's content because I know that I can't do it by myself. I don't take on large projects very well.

The best solution that I have been able to come up with is a wiki, and I am currently working on getting some minor details with that worked out... I'll PM everyone who was on the Writing Team when I've got everything situated.

Oh, I should mention that the playground on http://revolution.hoikas.com will be vanishing sometime in the near future. Enjoy it... while you can.

Hmm... First of all (but I'm sure you know, so you can skip it ;)), the site is lacking :, ' and ".

Secondly, I think it would be better if, on this "filmstrip" (fantastic idea, by the way, since we all know that BGE gives a very movie experience ;)) whole picture would be the link, not only the sign on it.

It's just minor details, but... this should be said ;)

(Oh, and could you write that I'm the autor of almost all of "The Team" descriptions? I'm not seeking fame (:P), but it'll give some sense in, i.e., Jagori's description... Oh, I wanted to add your description here, but your is good enough ;) You should take JFSOCC's description from the above link though).

wow! Do I see a german flag there? cool! :D

and Fomo is right about that film strip etc :D

Fomo?!?! :ahh: :lol:

Forgot about the flags... At first I wanted to shout "WHERE ARE POLISH AND HUNGARIAN FLAGS?!?!" and shoot you, but I'll give you a second chance ;)