Title: BG&E On List For Worst Game Endings
Denden666Piek - October 24, 2007 09:14 AM (GMT)
Games Radar has an interesting list of games with the worst game endings ever. As I expected, after watching the endings of Out Of This World and Bioshock (hey, as if I'm ever going to get a pc good enough to run Bioshock!), BG&E popped up on the third page.
BG&E: One Of The Worst Game Endings EverI do agree, it was beautiful to see Jade flying around and ressurecting all those people, but ultimately it was unsatisfying. On top of that, they had to include that little scene after the end-credits.
Nimitz_3d - October 24, 2007 09:50 AM (GMT)
I must be strange but i like ends like that, it's the same for XIII, sure i don't know what happening but i like it :D. (good find Denden666Piek, i'll made a news about this classification :D).
Fomorian - October 24, 2007 10:00 AM (GMT)
Hmm... I agree with it. Still, BGE is on the fifth place, so it's not that bad. Especially when you look at places 3 (WTF?!), 2 (WTF?!?!) and 1 (WTF?!?!?!).
The_Evil_Reaper - October 24, 2007 11:01 AM (GMT)
Whaha :lol: I love the Monster Party(third place) ending, especially the description that comes along with it :P
Denden666Piek - October 24, 2007 11:37 AM (GMT)
DOA 4 has horrible endings. Team Ninja has some pretty disturbing people working there.
The_Evil_Reaper - October 24, 2007 07:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 24 2007, 05:37 AM) |
| DOA 4 has horrible endings. Team Ninja has some pretty disturbing people working there. |
Now don't go pretending you didn't like the half naked girls... :lol:
G.A.Pster - October 24, 2007 09:16 PM (GMT)
I thought BG&E had a good conclusive ending.
Denden666Piek - October 25, 2007 10:03 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The_Evil_Reaper @ Oct 24 2007, 01:18 PM) |
| QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 24 2007, 05:37 AM) | | DOA 4 has horrible endings. Team Ninja has some pretty disturbing people working there. |
Now don't go pretending you didn't like the half naked girls... :lol:
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I used to think that it was fun, but they really exceeded themselves in making up weird shit.
The_Evil_Reaper - October 25, 2007 11:29 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 25 2007, 04:03 AM) |
| QUOTE (The_Evil_Reaper @ Oct 24 2007, 01:18 PM) | | QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 24 2007, 05:37 AM) | | DOA 4 has horrible endings. Team Ninja has some pretty disturbing people working there. |
Now don't go pretending you didn't like the half naked girls... :lol:
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I used to think that it was fun, but they really exceeded themselves in making up weird shit.
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Haha, kinda true, the DOA 3 endings were better, although it had some silly ones as well(Like Helena swimming with her dog). The salad girl was just... weird :wacko:
virumor - October 25, 2007 09:07 PM (GMT)
One must keep in mind that BG&E isn't really a standalone game, hence it is normal that the ending is a transition to the next game. Hence BG&E should not be judged that harshly.
That said, I think most modern adventure games have horrible endings, either by revealing nothing or with ludicrous plot twists.
BG&E Voyager - October 26, 2007 03:12 AM (GMT)
I am SO SICK of people saying the ending to MGS 2 was bad just because they didn't understand it. I understood it pretty well for the most part and i'm probably half the age of these people. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's bad, sheesh <_<
Denden666Piek - October 26, 2007 05:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BG&E Voyager @ Oct 25 2007, 09:12 PM) |
| I am SO SICK of people saying the ending to MGS 2 was bad just because they didn't understand it. I understood it pretty well for the most part and i'm probably half the age of these people. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's bad, sheesh <_< |
It was overly complicated and ambiguous, a farcry from the impressive yet clear storytelling form the original. Whether you understood it or not, in my opinion, Hideo Kojima himself did not have a clue on where to go with the story in the end.
Fomorian - October 26, 2007 09:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 25 2007, 11:40 PM) |
| QUOTE (BG&E Voyager @ Oct 25 2007, 09:12 PM) | | I am SO SICK of people saying the ending to MGS 2 was bad just because they didn't understand it. I understood it pretty well for the most part and i'm probably half the age of these people. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's bad, sheesh <_< |
It was overly complicated and ambiguous, a farcry from the impressive yet clear storytelling form the original. Whether you understood it or not, in my opinion, Hideo Kojima himself did not have a clue on where to go with the story in the end.
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Too complex to finish it easily with outro, eh?
BG&E Voyager - October 26, 2007 08:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 26 2007, 05:40 AM) |
| QUOTE (BG&E Voyager @ Oct 25 2007, 09:12 PM) | | I am SO SICK of people saying the ending to MGS 2 was bad just because they didn't understand it. I understood it pretty well for the most part and i'm probably half the age of these people. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's bad, sheesh <_< |
It was overly complicated and ambiguous, a farcry from the impressive yet clear storytelling form the original. Whether you understood it or not, in my opinion, Hideo Kojima himself did not have a clue on where to go with the story in the end.
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I honestly and respectfully say that I can't understand you. It was a philosophical ending with some roots of fact that shows how clever Kojima is.
Denden666Piek - October 27, 2007 10:07 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BG&E Voyager @ Oct 26 2007, 02:08 PM) |
| QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 26 2007, 05:40 AM) | | QUOTE (BG&E Voyager @ Oct 25 2007, 09:12 PM) | | I am SO SICK of people saying the ending to MGS 2 was bad just because they didn't understand it. I understood it pretty well for the most part and i'm probably half the age of these people. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's bad, sheesh <_< |
It was overly complicated and ambiguous, a farcry from the impressive yet clear storytelling form the original. Whether you understood it or not, in my opinion, Hideo Kojima himself did not have a clue on where to go with the story in the end.
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I honestly and respectfully say that I can't understand you. It was a philosophical ending with some roots of fact that shows how clever Kojima is.
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I know people who agree with you, but a lot more who don't. I guess people like me could get their satisfaction and closure in MGS4, but until then, I still really don't like the MGS2 ending. I'm all for philosophical endings, but Kojima took it too far, in my opinion.
The_Evil_Reaper - October 27, 2007 05:53 PM (GMT)
Anyway, back on topic. Perhaps it's good that BGE is on the list, people are still thinking about it, and they don't actually say to many bad things about it, they're just pissed there is no sequel. Which is good, off course.
I do disagree with them though, it has a nice ending it's not the kind of "Matrix Reloaded" ending, that was crappy(With Neo and the Sentinels, and eventually "Real world"-Smith). You were like "WTF?!? What happens next?!?", though the rest of the movie is extremely cool actually(yes, I believe it's better than part one). BGE gives closure of a chapter, maybe even of a book, but it needs to be continued, it was meant to be continued. So they're basicly whining for a sequel, we should ask them to join here, really :P
Luke-54 - October 27, 2007 09:37 PM (GMT)
After watching this list i must agree with bioshock and another world. But, can someone tell me where is the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. ?!
Fomorian - October 28, 2007 08:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The_Evil_Reaper @ Oct 27 2007, 11:53 AM) |
| I do disagree with them though, it has a nice ending it's not the kind of "Matrix Reloaded" ending, that was crappy(With Neo and the Sentinels, and eventually "Real world"-Smith). You were like "WTF?!? What happens next?!?", though the rest of the movie is extremely cool actually(yes, I believe it's better than part one). |
Me too :)
Luke: Those endings were that bad? :huh:
MrStalker - October 28, 2007 10:02 AM (GMT)
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Will we explore our heroine's obviously mysterious past? Will we find out more about what she is and what she can do? Will the aliens return and, if so, will they use her powers? Will that poor pig be okay?
Wait - there isn't a next game? There never will be? We hate you. |
That's exactly what I feel.
Alexa - October 28, 2007 11:52 AM (GMT)
I don't think the ending problem lies in that suspense.It's rather a matter of that ending being simply crappy.C'mon,some enormous guy,that makes Jade float up in the air?And all those shiny green souls?
That makes me think of some terribly chessy anime.Sorry,but I was rather dissapointed of seeing it end with shiny lights and floating stuff around.It could be much better.
Denden666Piek - October 28, 2007 12:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Alexa @ Oct 28 2007, 05:52 AM) |
I don't think the ending problem lies in that suspense.It's rather a matter of that ending being simply crappy.C'mon,some enormous guy,that makes Jade float up in the air?And all those shiny green souls? That makes me think of some terribly chessy anime.Sorry,but I was rather dissapointed of seeing it end with shiny lights and floating stuff around.It could be much better. |
That may be another discussion, but I don't think the enormous "guy" made Jade float.
In any case, I don't agree with Reaper on the Matrix Reloaded comparison. The difference was that with the ending of Matrix Reloaded, we knew we would get answers after 6 months. With the ending of BG&E, which left as many questions unanswered as Matrix Reloaded did, we knew we had to wait at least another few years for the next game. If you didn't play the game in the first few months after its release, THEN you knew that a sequel would be unlikely. I have to admit that BG&E gave us some closure on what kind of power shauni is, but there are just too many other questions left unanswered.
Luke-54 - October 28, 2007 02:44 PM (GMT)
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| Luke: Those endings were that bad? :huh: |
Well, if you played game, you know that stalker have 4 different endings, two of them are true and two are false. I saw all of them (I've finished game 5 times). After doing a choice (in the true endings) Strielok is asking himself is he do the right one and the game is ending. You never get to known is that choice is right.
MrStalker - October 28, 2007 03:18 PM (GMT)
I think the BGE ending is just excellent, a perfect ending to a perfect masterpiece, especially the music (I get goose bumps every time I hear it). Well, this is asuming that there will be a sequel some day... otherwise it basically sucks...
Alexa - October 28, 2007 03:31 PM (GMT)
That ending didn't actually work on me the first time I played the game.Yeah,I cried over the scene,when Jade came back to the destroyed Lighthouse or when Pey'j was lying uncoscious in the DomZ base,but the ending...It stroke me with the "It doesn't fit here!" thought.It's just too close to the border of clicheness.That,and Pey'j cliffhanger made almost no impression on me at all.BG&E itself is brilliant,but if I had to pick the worst moment of the game,it would be the ending.
Fomorian - October 28, 2007 03:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Luke-54 @ Oct 28 2007, 08:44 AM) |
| QUOTE | | Luke: Those endings were that bad? :huh: |
Well, if you played game, you know that stalker have 4 different endings, two of them are true and two are false. I saw all of them (I've finished game 5 times). After doing a choice (in the true endings) Strielok is asking himself is he do the right one and the game is ending. You never get to known is that choice is right.
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Hm, that is a problem.
As for your question - probably because it's PC only. All other games (except for Another World) are on consoles.
BG&E Voyager - October 28, 2007 08:10 PM (GMT)
The ending music to BG&E gives me tears; I think it's a beautiful "ending", especially the credits part ^_^
The_Evil_Reaper - October 28, 2007 08:12 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Alexa @ Oct 28 2007, 09:31 AM) |
| That ending didn't actually work on me the first time I played the game.Yeah,I cried over the scene,when Jade came back to the destroyed Lighthouse or when Pey'j was lying uncoscious in the DomZ base,but the ending...It stroke me with the "It doesn't fit here!" thought.It's just too close to the border of clicheness.That,and Pey'j cliffhanger made almost no impression on me at all.BG&E itself is brilliant,but if I had to pick the worst moment of the game,it would be the ending. |
I disagree about the ending, I thought it was beautiful, though the destroyed lighthouse scene is better indeed, but it's an entirely different scene with different emotions. Also, I like clichés, if they weren't good or appealing to people they wouldn't be clichés now would they?
I agree with Denden, Jade has found access to her power and, after saving Pey'j, she finds the power to resurrect everyone. I think it's a nice closure of a game, and it gives me goosebumps too. Off course, it does need a sequel, for the unanswered questions.
I do agree on the whole Pey'j being sick thing, it didn't do much to me either. It's supposed to be dramatic, but it just didn't get that feeling. I was more like "Oh, that's not to good..."
virumor - October 28, 2007 09:09 PM (GMT)
Speaking of the ending, what exactly happened to the DomZ priest? He kinda vanished into thin air.
This makes me believe that the fiend wasn't killed by Jade, but perhaps when she poked the Daijo into his eye he decided to call it a day and teleport out of there, and plan his revenge.
After all, villains always come back. Just count the number of times Vulture died and returned in the Spiderman comics. :ahh:
Denden666Piek - October 28, 2007 09:37 PM (GMT)
I think the priest will return, or the true villain will reveal himself. The priest might have been part of a larger entity and the priest spoke and fought in its stead.
In any case, I think revenge will be carried out through Pey'j.
The_Evil_Reaper - October 28, 2007 09:45 PM (GMT)
Yeah, but Pey'j was infected by something, I don't think something just transferred al it's powers into Pey'j. I believe the whole larger entity thing, the priest is just a minion.
Besides, all the other people where pretty much dead-ish as well, so I believe there are all infected as well. Pretty soon the entire town of Hilly will be infected with Domz-zombies(Dombiez, if you please), and you'll have to grab anything at your disposal to kill them for you story off course, this could be the scoop of your life!
:unsure:
Ok... perhaps I'm playing too much Dead Rising... Which reminds me, the main character is a freelance reporter, with a camera! :D
Denden666Piek - October 28, 2007 09:51 PM (GMT)
You're onto something here, we'll make Dombiez an official term!
Although I don't think you should kill them. :unsure:
The_Evil_Reaper - October 28, 2007 09:55 PM (GMT)
Says who?
*arms himself with a cash-register* :sinister:
MrStalker - October 28, 2007 09:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 28 2007, 11:37 PM) |
| I think the priest will return, or the true villain will reveal himself. |
Hey guys, it's a priest. Not the God. There are propably plenty of more where he came from.
Denden666Piek - October 28, 2007 10:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (MrStalker @ Oct 28 2007, 03:55 PM) |
| QUOTE (Denden666Piek @ Oct 28 2007, 11:37 PM) | | I think the priest will return, or the true villain will reveal himself. |
Hey guys, it's a priest. Not the God. There are propably plenty of more where he came from.
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Precisely!
But I do think that this priest did have a very high function in the whole political system of the DomZ.
Alexa - October 28, 2007 10:20 PM (GMT)
And soon the DomZ will unite with Polish right-wing parties and they'll ban breathing,thus destroying the human race! :ahh:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :omg: :omg: :omg:
MrStalker - October 28, 2007 10:27 PM (GMT)
Where the hell did that come from?(!)
I don't know much about Polish politics so...
Anyway, the priest may have command over a army or two, but hey, you know, ever seen Star Wars? It's the Darth Vader we need to worry about.
Alexa - October 28, 2007 10:32 PM (GMT)
If DomZ had their politics,they'd sure unite with the most evil politicans in the universe... :rolleyes:
And Vader ain't the worst here.They all really fear the Dark Side,don't they?
virumor - October 28, 2007 10:37 PM (GMT)
The fact that the DomZ priest had been searching for centuries for Shauni, who apparently was the instrument of his strength, does make him unique in my book.
Either he was ruling all other DomZ, or he was an outcast intent on ruling them all.
The DomZ themselves might not have been an evil race at all, it's just that the ones we saw were mere minions.
Denden666Piek - October 28, 2007 10:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (virumor @ Oct 28 2007, 04:37 PM) |
The fact that the DomZ priest had been searching for centuries for Shauni, who apparently was the instrument of his strength, does make him unique in my book.
Either he was ruling all other DomZ, or he was an outcast intent on ruling them all.
The DomZ themselves might not have been an evil race at all, it's just that the ones we saw were mere minions. |
An outcast, eh? I hadn't really thought about that before. It could make sense.
But if we approach it the Star Wars way, then I'd say that the Priest was Darth Vader. The Emperor needs to find a new apprentice...again. :D
BG&E Voyager - October 29, 2007 02:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Alexa @ Oct 28 2007, 10:20 PM) |
And soon the DomZ will unite with Polish right-wing parties and they'll ban breathing,thus destroying the human race! :ahh:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :omg: :omg: :omg: |
:schater: That was so random :lol:
In the sequel, the actual priest(not the DomZ monster) will help you out and tell you of a greater threat to the universe! :arr: